WHAT HAS HAPPENED ????

[tonyfromroselawn]

THREE VERY STRONG BLACK MEN in our Community are at ODD's with each other. Man this is CRAZY !

I am NOT certain what has happened, and I have NO real details on what has happened, but Chris Smitherman, Junebug, and K. Oba are in some kind of feud. Man, I am shocked, because I know, and have known all of them, and have great respect for their efforts, but feuding .... MAN !

I know I will still continue to go to Junebugs, to eat, and to the Saturday Summit, I will be "VOTING" for Chris Smitherman, and I will continue to talk to and shake hands with Kabaca Oba (spelling ?).

I guess with STRONG BLACK MEN comes STRONGER personalities. There is NO side to pick on this one.

Is there anyone that knows EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED and WHY ?


Tony From Roselawn,

[bengalerik]

Tony,

I have been wondering what has happened as well! Lincoln and Jay sorta dance around the subject when it is brought up, especially Lincoln! But I can imagine it can be difficult to be in the of a scrap like that!

Bengalerik

[kentomagic]

I'm not black. Don't understand the reference to "strong black men." I know it's used a lot. But the black men I consider strong are far from the public personality forums which many pay attention to. God who created all of us homo-sapiens in his image I think is unimpressed with many of the things we can feel are virtuous goals. I personally could hang with the image Smitherman has fashioned. Oba is a jerk IMO. No way will his diatribes win me over. Sorry but I think I'm a reasonable man. If Smitherman is trying to get close so as to influence the guy, I think he's wasting his time. But I can't speak for what he thinks he needs or is led to do. God, whom I mentioned before loves Oba as he does me. 'nuff said. To end this, I have absorbed the issues of our American struggles with civil rights and discrimination. I understand OUR (America's) history. Why not seek middle ground? Ignorance is just that. Not worth the excitement some wish it to cause. Like this Oba fella. I can only guess that Smitherman got caught up thinking he has to appease the loud-mouth instead of knowing he doesn't have to. Why not? He can be reasonable and easily get my support. Like Jesse Jackson says, "Common ground."

[Matt]

Interesting topic...

[tonyfromroselawn]

;D

To Whom It May Concern,

I am down there at Junebugs on Saturday to the so-called Summit, as often as I can, and I have been knowing Junebug and his wifes family since the mid 70's. I have Great Respect for Junebug and Mr Howard, his brother.
Kabaca Oba, I have know since back in the early 80's over at U.C., and he has not changed a bit, since then, but I have never known him to be disrespectful or voilent towards anyone. I have also meet Niki X, and she is just as respectful.
Chris Smitherman I have spoke with and voted for, and I have GREAT RESPECT for his stand against the Police department, and the giving of Tax Money to Corporations. I continue to give to his campaign, as often as I can.


These are what we call as "Strong Black Men" 8-)who stand out in the Public and the Community. We have a lot of Black Men who will stand up inside the community, but they never make the public's eye. When it comes to speaking out in public, many Black Men can't afford to because they run the risk of losing their jobs, being attacked by the Enquirer , or many other reason. Yet I know everyone is subject to the same pressures, but it is very hard to move up through all the discrimination and racism, and then loose it all because you spoke up about it. Once you do this, as a Black Man, that will follow you everywhere you go. And since most time you will be going to a White business for a job, you learn to keep silentand avoid speaking out on subject you wish to speak out against.
WE WON'T ALL AGREE AS AS BLACK MEN, but WE SHOULD ALL AGREE AS TO TO REAL NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

Iwill add more to this comment at a later time, because I want to hear the replies, FIRST !!!!


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[Economic Rights]

What you wrote about is characteristic of what happens to leadership of a disorganized "community".

Please attend the Summit of the following press release and you will see "the" solution this and other "ills" plaguing our Black community.
Cincinnati Prepares for Economic Movement
Cincinnati, Ohio, December 1, 2005 - A consortium of clergy, business, community and residential leadership will conduct a mass meeting and summit in the Walnut Hills community of Cincinnati, Monday, December 12, 2005.
The purpose of the summit is to orientate new leadership for launching an economic movement on the Dr. Martin Luther King Holiday in January , 2006.
Rev. William James, pastor of Salem Tabernacle Baptist Church, Avondale, recalls, “The day before his death, Dr. King stated to the supporters of the Memphis, Tennessee striking sanitation workers, that the Black community's annual $600 billion income is an economic power that must be used to right the wrongs and injustices of this American society.”
“To achieve the goals of reducing crime, creating jobs, developing businesses, and increasing home ownership requires a new and different approach. This summit has the answers and proven solution.” states Bill Tate, an economic empowerment activist. “We will also demonstrate how the moderate and lower income communities can generate $300,000 every month for jobs, businesses, housing, and charitable purposes.”
The Rev. Herschel Willis, CEO, Visions and Dreams Ministries, Inc., says, “The design of this economic movement and the implementation process will bring new dimensions to the three methods for economic, political, and social reform used by Civil Rights leaders – Sit-ins, Demonstrations, and Marches. We will start in Cincinnati and spread this movement across America.”
The Summit session will be held at Calvary Missionary Baptist Church, 803 Wm Howard Taft Rd, Walnut Hills, beginning at 7:00 p.m., the Rev. Dr. J.R. Chisley is hosting pastor.
The Summit is open to ALL who are progressive minded and want to know how to make a change happen. The Summit has NO Admission Fees..
Contact Information:
Bill Tate, Summit Coordinator
859-803-1112
www.EconomicRights.org E-mail: [e-mail]