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Post by james on Apr 13, 2006 8:48:19 GMT -5
I just wonder will J.R. be on her local cable access show trying to inflame people this week. I guess it is all good fun until your boyfriend gets gunned down. Will she wise up and shut up or will she step up the rhetoric? I have a feeling that she won't be happy until. . . well, you know. Let me say that I don't think that she will stop.
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Post by alphaomega on Apr 13, 2006 10:25:36 GMT -5
She will act like the fool. She spit in the face of one of the family members at the hearing this morning. Oba got what he deserved.
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Post by james on Apr 13, 2006 10:41:40 GMT -5
I don't agree that he got what he deserved. Who deserves to be shot because they have a disagreement with another person? I just believe that J.R. is at fault. I blame J.R. for Kabaka being shot. Kabaka didn't have these kind of petty "beefs" with a lot of people before he ditched Nikki X! and got with J.R.. I would say that Howard Beaty should not have shot Kabaka. J.R. should get her act together before she gets Kabaka killed. It almost happened this time and if she doesn't stop either she or Kabaka will be dead before long. I don't wish it on anyone but you can't just keep fu#king with people and not expect them to come back.
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Post by westsider on Apr 13, 2006 11:37:24 GMT -5
did't Kabaka say there was no Black-on-black crime in Cincinnati?
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Post by james on Apr 13, 2006 12:37:17 GMT -5
By that he meant that crime is crime. There is no "Black on Black" crime, no "White on White" crime. All crime is just that. . . Crime! I didn't hear anyone use the term "White on White" crime when the crazy doctor stalked and broke into her "ex lover's" house and assaulted him and threatened his wife. It was a crime. Kabaka Oba being shot by Howard Beaty is a crime.
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Post by alphaomega on Apr 15, 2006 22:05:40 GMT -5
You live by the sword, You die by the sword. I suspect the gates of Hell are open wide for Kabaka Aba.
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Post by thesassyone on Apr 16, 2006 10:01:36 GMT -5
This is truly a sad day for me. The murder of yet another Black man at the hand of a Black man is sad enough, but the murder of a Black man such as Kabaka is truly a loss. I didn't even know Kabaka Oba personally but I remember watching him getting in City Council's face about the outrageous behaviors of the Sinsinnati police before the Timothy Thomas shooting, the police collaborative and all that. He stood up against police brutality before it was popular to do so along with his faithful sidekick Nikki X. That is the Kabaka that I will chose to remember because I'm having a hard time dealing with the reality of this whole dam situation. And Matt I'm gonna try to stay within the rules of the forum (which I actually read this time around ). But I digress... Whether or not you agreed with his philosophy, tactics etc you have to admit that Kabaka had enough courage to go before the powers that be and say what he thought. That aspect alone is an admiral quality when so many Black folks are mentally absent from themselves. As such how can they possibly be there for this younger generation that needs them so very much. BOT The very great lesson to be learned from all of this drama is that I must always be careful of my associations and think for myself. I haven't really kept up on the comings and goings of Kabaka or any other activist. I have enough trouble keeping up with my little life. But I did some research starting on Wednesday when this shooting happened and quite frankly I didn't like some of the things I read. You will have to do the research yourself if you don't know the story because I'm not gonna get into that mess at all. This post is about how harmful we can be to each other and my big question about how the hell that happens. Also at the risk of this post being eliminated and my user name being banned, why the hell is the BUZZ smack dab in the middle of this drama? Are you gonna continue to broadcast from gansta Junebugs now? Is that where the Black town hall meeting is still gonna be held? How is that gonna work while advocating non-violence? If we cannot face ourselves in this critical time and admit the truth I think there may really not be very much hope for Blacks in this city at all. Is it gonna be - once again - the almighty Black bourgeois dollar that dictates the truth in this matter? I certainly hope not. Kabaka didn't have much that I could tell and he certainly made some very bad decisions as of late but I refuse to believe that he deserved to be gunned down for them. For those of you who say that Kabaka got what he deserved you are by saying that condoning the violence that is happening in our streets everyday. Because what REALLY is the difference? Some dope boy said something, did something, threatened someone's financial security and they shot them. Take away the drugs (possibly) and that's the situation that has resulted in Kabaka's death. It's all the same very bad scenario. Some Black man is dead. SAD SAD SAD Thanks for letting me get that off my chest.
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Post by james on Apr 17, 2006 10:04:12 GMT -5
Sassy, I agree with some of what you had to say. I wonder, what does it matter whether or not the buzz does a show from junebugs? Why do you call him a gangster? No one is convicted of anything and junebug is not charged with anything. We have a problem when people presume our guilt but we are so quick to do it to other people.
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Post by thesassyone on Apr 17, 2006 22:16:51 GMT -5
I wonder, what does it matter whether or not the buzz does a show from junebugs? Why do you call him a gangster? No one is convicted of anything and junebug is not charged with anything. We have a problem when people presume our guilt but we are so quick to do it to other people. James, He shot the man down in cold blood right in front of City Hall. That is about as gangsta as you can get in my book. No Junebug is not charged with anything, but didn't Howard work there? For those who bought into that whole "town hall meeting on Saturday afternoon at Junebugs" theory, I'm just wondering how they gonna figure out how to better the community in the establishment that Kabaka's alleged killer worked in. I'm just wondering....
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Post by james on Apr 18, 2006 8:20:21 GMT -5
Now just because Howard worked at Junebugs, Junebug is guilty of something? He is a gangster because he hired his brother? Oh wait I get it, he is a gangster because his brother shot somebody! That's the way we want people to think. Sassy, were you one of the witnesses in front of city hall? You saw everything that went down? I guess you can't talk about it because you may be a witness at the trial but if you weren't there. . . how do you know exactly what happened before shots rang out? We all assume that Howard just decided to blast Kabaka but what if something else happened before Kabaka was shot? WHAT IF? I don't believe that it did but that is just what I don't BELIEVE. Maybe I am the only one who won't make a decision unless I am on the jury and I am presented with all of the facts. I suppose you don't have to worry about being a juror because you will be on the witness stand right?
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Post by tonyfromroselawn on Apr 18, 2006 11:42:42 GMT -5
SASSY THAT WAS A VERY "GooD POST It is Amazing that Anyone would say that Kabaka deserved to die .... That he Lived and Died by the Sword, and then the same folks complain about the OTR & W.E. Murders and Shootings. Regardless of what Two Good Men have lost their LIVES. Kabaka and Mr. Howard. I know Mr. Howard, and first meet Kabaka back at U.C. in 1983. Mr. Howard as I know him is a very Nice and Quiet Man. He seem to be a Non-Violent Man to me. What got him to this point is a unknown to me. Kabaka was very vocal as I have known him, and with little change as I knew him, but he too never shown any violence in dealing with myself or other I saw him around. Both men were always respectful to me, and other I saw them around .... THE QUESTION IS WHAT DROVE TWO GOOD MEN TO TURN AGAINST ONE ANOTHER ..... Who May Not Be that far away from each other, in their Battles against Racism, Street Crime, Black people Supporting Each other, and many other point. :-[PEOPLE WHO SPEAK AGAINST EITHER OF THESE MEN REALLY DON'T KNOW THESE MEN ? It is All to Easy to Speak of that which you do not know of, and the people who do know, often never say "ANYTHING." REGARDLESS OF WHAT TWO GOOD MEN ARE LOST, and THEY JUST HAPPEN TO BE "BLACK" TFR
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Post by james on Apr 20, 2006 13:55:42 GMT -5
Tony, what's up with all of the damn smileys? I hate it when people use all of those damn smileys to convey their thoughts. THAT'S WHAT THE F*CKING WORDS ARE FOR TONY!!! All of those damn smileys killed the thread. It's like coloring for adults who graduated from special ed and no one wants to talk after a slow learner because we feel sorry for them. Do they have a smiley for "I hate that sh!t"? Maybe one puking his guts out. DAMN I HATE SMILEYS! THANK YOU MR. TONY!
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Post by blackcincy on May 14, 2006 18:38:05 GMT -5
Unbelievable!!! How can you say that ANYBODY deserved to die. That type of mentality is what fuels 'VIOLENCE' in OUR (Black) neighborhoods today. For AlphaOmega... Famous Quote: 'It is best to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt'.
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Post by CincyJim on Feb 25, 2007 16:12:37 GMT -5
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Post by soulcincy on Mar 29, 2007 13:48:28 GMT -5
That whole thing was crazy....black on black crime indeed. Nobody deserves a death sentence for their words, but hey, that's the way of man, isn't it?
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